crashing into earth. he coasted on a brand of preposterous seriousness. that kept people from actually questioning his credibility. let me define what a leak is. it's something you love that hurt something you hate and it's something you hate if it hurt someone you love. he likes this and he says it's for patriotic value but he really likes it because it hinders our president he hates. >> kimberly: i think you summed it up. >> greg: i'll just be down at the bar. >> kimberly: okay, bye-bye. >> dana: the value of a leak is in the eye of the beholder or the recipient, if you are a reporter. especially if they are forged documents. remember the pentagon papers? looking back in history, if you look back on that -- i can't imagine what it was like at the time but most students are taught that that was patriotic at. even though it was a huge national security leak. and snowden -- including people that are defending