it actually is a human rights problem when people are luring people, promising them if they can just make it to a sanctuary city they will be okay. we have had in recent weeks untold all those deaths that we saw in that horrible situation in the truck in texas. and so everybody, democrat and republican need to recover a much better conversation for talking about these things. there is a reason why we have rule of law and not rule of men. and we can debate whether we want to have stricter or more lax immigration policy but we need to be on the same page and understand that having borders and having laws is something that serves the entire community. >> bret: we're not lawyers here, but is there standing here for chicago and do you think this make makes it all the way up to the supreme court? >> i think it goes to the supreme court. i talked to a couple lawyer-types today. and the law is so murky on all of, this the supreme court has never established like a test for how you can judge when the federal government can condition funding. so we play this game a lot with the 55 mile-per-hour speed limit and drunk