statuary cities, rather than actinger concretely to stop the murderers. they will sit s there and they will geter up and they will talk about sanctuary cities while people are dying. poor urban blacks are most likely to be victims of crime. we know that. the way that you can stop and reduce i that crime is making gs more available to them to defend themselves against the criminals. the permits are too high in illinois, they are 450 bucks for permits and training. there is a great article on that. in new york, you got to be rich and powerful to get a permit. we are denying poor, law-abiding citizens the right to defend themselves against people that are out there with the legal guns because you can get illegal guns and gun controlled cities like chicago. every time you blame it on illegal guns, you are showing that gun control doesn't work. especially in cities like chicago, where gun-control is so high. >> richard: i have one response. thee former police chief in chicago said this, and i support the police, he said this, the number one problem in the streets of chicago is this.