the call with the foreign leaders. the reason why those are conversations you want to have that are confidential, that's one way to ensure -- an opportunity for the united states to gather intelligence from other countries. and so you are basically impeding that process. and basically you'll find there is bipartisan support to basically cracking down on these leaks. it was senator mark warner who came out yesterday saying this is absolutely troubling. >> leland: we have the bipartisan support from you and juan on cracking down on this. how to stop the other leaks. how do you stop the white house palace intrigue? >> the white house leaks -- i worked in a white house under president bush where there weren't very many leaks. it was a very disciplined communications shop. basically you recognize that you are there to serve the president and any time there is a leak about the soap opera that's happening within the white house, palace intrigue it is damaging to the president. you kind of close in your circle as to who has access to