nice they may be to you. >> bill: he made the mistake by not saying it was off the record. >> no question it was a mistake but i have gotten dozens of calls from republicans and democrats over the years, anchors who have unloaded in sometimes salty language, scaramucci-type language with the understanding that they are talking to me off the record and i'm not going to publish it and i'll say are we saying this for the record? how are we talking here? what has been overlooked in all this. it wasn't an interview it was venting. what has been overlooked is scaramucci is doing what the president wants. unlike spicer and priebus. he has donald trump's confidence. when he attacked reince priebus no one pushed back. for all the -- >> bill: why are you suggesting in the past as a report -- why was it different this time do you think?