we've had more than a year to see how it works. there hasn't been any diminishment of readiness or any disruption of any kind. what we know is men like shane ortega, another transgender service member, who conducted hundreds of missions in afghanistan and iraq, multiple combat tours, has 100% -- yes, as a matter of fact, in their art right now people like riley dosh, a cadet who graduated from the military -- >> tucker: i'm asking you a broader question. is it an actual concern that the pentagon would have to pay for sex change operations, do you think that's a valid military expense? do you think these real questions about how to integrate people in close quarters living who haven't fully transitioned must make to this office like -- >> to be fair, we've spent years starting this. we did a commissioned report, and the obama administration did exactly that.