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poverty and settlements and things that we are not at all consistent with what the president had said in his speeches about this issue during the campaign. so, you have the policy sort of heading off on its own in one direction -- >> harris: would you say it is drifting? >> steve: that is maybe the best way to say it. if you believe that this is going to be jared kushner's portfolio, and he is not doing it, the state department is doing with the state department does. >> kennedy: they also say that they are woefully understaffed, as armed many aspects. i don't agree with us, the limited government libertarian, a lot of freedom there. that's what you are going to get it. but having said that, there aren't a lot of people to respond to things like this. and it is much easier to go adrift when someone is off message, when someone is distracted. so you have combination of a ghost chip, and someone who whs completely taken off their post. >> harris: you know, this

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