becoming depressed. have you heard him for the last 27 years? he's basically like you're in frog version five it's not easy being green. he was always depressed. >> i be depressed too if i was a puppet. tom: steven, do you think this guy let playing kermit go to his head: >> maybe. he was with him for a while but it was reported in the new york times story that he supposedly filmed office contract and filled the video with kermit, ms. piggy and fuzzy bear in an undisclosed company and he wouldn't disclose it. i think we all kind of know what that means. you know. >> russian. [laughter] >> to profits and one puppet. tom: what about, tyrus, what about on the show? do you confront your bosses? >> all the time.