steven, what do you thank you thank you spend enough time for the memorabilia crime? >> i'm tired of o'day but i'll take a stab at thoughts here. what was interesting to me when all the networks cut over to parole hearing it took me back to the time when one singular celebrity dominated news coverage for all day, night and months on end. tom: it said something, kat, about what is it? the persona of o'day -- for you in kindergarten when the original o'day trial happened? [laughter] >> i have since watch the documentaries and i consider myself an expert which is why you watch documentaries and i think he'll go back to prison. tom: you do smart. >> yes, because when you get paroled you have to live a conflict on print conflict free life.