heard the last of o.j., shep. >> if you were interviewing him, where would you start? >> i would have to start -- in some passing fashion make note of the fact that, you know, you're getting out now, you have a restart in life, very few people get to start all over under these circumstances. good luck. but no go back to 1994. what was it that you felt empowered you to get one of these butcher knives that you practiced with, you got from your movies, these martial arts that you had -- the whole ninja business. what rage motivated you to go and do this to the mother of your children with them asleep inside the home? one good thing he did, shep, briefly, he brought attention to domestic violence in a way we had not seen it before. >> indeed he did. geraldo, thank you very much. here's the order of events.