over the period of seven or eight years, that drops down to just cpi. consumer pricece index. over that period of time, the individuals that would transition from medicaid to theh private market would then be able to have the coverage that they want. and if they needed it because of their low income would be subsidized by what's called a stability fund. more choices, lower costs, strengthening medicare. making it so we can have patient-centered health care in the system. >> tucker: not fewer people covered by health insurance. >> i believe, there's no way to predict it, cba has a terrible record on predicting how much coverage, but i believe thater there would be more people, more individuals being able to be covered with the system currently being contemplated in the senate than currently. >> tucker: who loses? you've described who wins, but someone always loses, who loses? >> the folks who want government to run your health care, they lose. >> tucker: who are they? >> they are the folks in this town right now who are opposing