they are giving a hard time to people that work in these agencies that are civil servants, many of them not very highly paid. and when he doesn't read the presidential briefs, instead he watches cable news shows, attacking people on twitter. >> tucker: as a factual matter, they are highly paid, federal bureaucrats make considerably more than their private-sector counterparts. so they are well-paid. >> people serving in the fbi, they are not highly paid people. they could make a lot more money in the private sector. these are people who worked in the military, that dni, there are a lot of people who from -- give their life to protect our nation. >> tucker: yes there are. my father worked in the federal government, i'm not against federal employees. >> and mine worked for -- >> tucker: and when he worked for president, you have two choices. you can either work to forward