mcmaster talking about how the chinese and russians are trying to append the postwar order but you have a scar to donald trump himself. what do you expect? >> trump has not been encouraging the chinese and the russians overturn the world order. trump has his own ideas about what america's role is. the fact that the chinese and russians have been trying to change everything since the end of the cold war and not insert themselves in a world system which the u.s. is dominant is a plain and obvious fact. the chinese are trying to drive us out of the pacific rim. that's what all the island building is about. that's what the aircraft carriers are about. that's what their threats are about. that's why they are not going to give up on north korea. they clearly are a challenge. we are going to have to meet on the ground on the russians of course are challenging nato expansion, our alliance with -- semi alliance with ukraine and