50 votes. it's a challenge, because there are a lot of people in republican party on the moderate side who maybe uncomfortable repealing obamacare, and people in the right who aren't comfortable replacing obamacare, they'd rather just repeal it and go home, and that ideological and philosophical differences playing a role. >> martha: stay with me for a moment. rand paul basically says this is a buyout for insurance company. why are we throwing money at insurance companies in the name of stabilizing the market place? they aren't the people that need the money. what you think about that? >> i don't get the buyout of insurance companies at all. i think it's about making sure that sick people and poor people can afford health insurance, which is a goal that republicans in my view should embrace. that's the principle behind the report transcending obamacare as you cited in the teaser. my foundation is all about market-based approaches to coverage. that's what we should be working on. the promise ran policy doesn't