and i have said this to our democrat friends, we don't need to be inhumane to throw people off or say you're going to lose it because you can't afford it. we're going to give you reasons how you can use it more efficiently and keep it. give them a chance. there's things we can do. we're willing to sit down and talk about this. you can't say repeal is out there and has to be repeal or nothing. that's a political promise. i don't think it's going to fly and i'm hoping they'll sit down and -- >> neil: the irony if they're not repealing october. >> they're really not. >> neil: they could have won over more democrats, saying largely it's in tact. it's going to be smaller, different, funded differently. largely intact, isn't it? >> the thing with the tax starting out with the 500, $600 billion tax repeal. staying you're going to make that up by making $700 billion of cuts. why can get the savings that need to be in by utilizing it much better.