were interested. he set up both arguments about bob mueller in the future. he said he was an honorable man, but he also said that v5 has made some political picks. donald trump sending up two different arguments. >> bill: why do you suggest that? where would that lead him or what door does that lead open for him? >> he seems to be wanting to take chunks out of the credibility of bob mueller and this investigation because it doesn't go the way donald trump wants it to, but he's also not taking the ultimate staff and firing mueller that one might expect if trump really does believe that this work or it was a politically motivated witch hunt that he said in the past. he is sort of trying to have it both ways, keeping his options open for arguments no matter how it ends up. >> bill: steve, thanks. great to have you back on our show. stephen hayes, you got it. sheena, was coming up? >> shannon: we have a lot more coming up. sean spicer is going to join us