>> juan: dana, i was looking at the number and still, 60% of americans think don't build it. >> dana: of all the things he keeps talking about, that consistently has about 62% of people saying we don't need that. i think he is recognizing the fact there are some other issues of immigration he will have to deal with. last week, he signed the order allowing dreamers to stay but their parents could be deported. that continues to be messy. there's a whole thing with thehe congressional hispanic caucus talking about some immigrants serving in the military but thel after they get back, they get deported. they tried to reach out to the president on that. the window for immigration reform is closing pretty quickly. especially, after the summer, they move on to tax reform, they probablym won't solve any f these problems for a while. >> juan: is this like donald trump environmentalist, "oh, yeah, alternative energy, really great stuff?" >> jesse: he's triangulating. he's playing chess and you guys are playing checkers. >> juan: no doubt about it.