more miss lahr status quo -- muscular status quo budget. it's certainly not historic. leland: interesting. this is what john mccain, an advocate for the military regardless of what you think of him, had to say about the budget. >> it's probably dead on arrival. it doesn't rebuild the military. it doesn't give us the ships and the numbers of personnel we need, the capabilities we need. leland: so where is the disconnect between the administration's talking points and senator mccain? >> the disconnect is that president trump's budget is a repair effort to start to rebuild the military's foundation after the budget control act -- leland: budget control act is the sequester. >> yes, basically. leland: okay. >> but what it is not is a rebuild budget. leland: does the u.s. military need to be rebuilt? >> it does. we've billion on -- 9/11, the post-9/11 buildup was i in many ways a hollow buildup, specifically funded for the wars in iraq and afghanistan. but with no longevity or modernization for the future force. so that money keeps getting deferred.