comey also gave you further insight to back up will greg said. he didn't quite understand what was appropriate to discuss with the fbi director. >> juan: i agree. >> kimberly: that doesn't show any kind of intent to commit a crime. he saying i don't think this is a president or a man who knew the ropes, as to how we do things around here. >> dana: still, he has been a ceo of a private company for a long time. i don't think that necessarily necessarily -- not understanding basic rules of the road when it comes to government and separation of power. when you work for the government or the head of the government, you pledge your loyalty to the united states of america. not to any one man that's a fundamental principle of america. if you don't learn that during the transition. the founding fathers put that in the constitution for a reason. >> greg: i wouldn't know that. if i ran for president, i would