than that than what the democrats are doing, if they can get it they'll take it and go with it as long as they can. paul: governor of vermont, former governor of vermont, joe, ran on this in 2012 or 2014, said, i'm going to impose sing-payer in the people's republic of vermont, he failed because there was too much cost, he had to raise taxes so much and people would have fled the state? >> enormous increase in the tax burden which would apply to a rich state like california, the importance of these state-base movements is the states, the governors eventually find they just can't afford it but it's an exercise in signaling to say the national democrats we can't do this here but you can do it in washington, you can raise taxes to impose some kind of system like this. if republicans, i think, in congress can't pass the health care bill this is where the democratic party is going and it's going to be the next big