feeling betrayed by him. seeing is he not effective and giving away their lifeline like healthcare. we talk about paris accord. take about jobs. that's 800,000 jobs specter that he is ignoring. abby: that's a conversation we can have. this debate right here is about the future of the democratic party. and can hillary clinton help -- she helping piling on this list of excuses. that's the focus of this debate. >> sure, important to analyze what happened in the past election. variety of reasons for her lost. this is that we can look, moving forward and we can understand what actually happened. talk about what facts happened this election, she did win the popular vote by 3 million votes. we also know for a fact that russia hacked the election. that is verified by 18 intelligence agencies. and the fact that the president himself is not looking at that is a problem. >> are you fine with hillary clinton pointing the finger at the dnc and james comey and everyone -- the fact that, you know, the white man did not vote for her? are you just fine that she just keeps pointing the finger and instead looking into