president obama wasn't even able to get it ratified by the senate. they're focusing on that instead of what we know actually works, what has actually reduced co2 emission. that is the free market. that's what we heard secretary pruitt talk about. >> jenna: i'm curious about that point. that was also a point made by the white house. perhaps there's better ways to do this. you can also do it through state regulation. if a certain state felt very strong about this issue and its voters. maybe that's the better way to approach it. scott pruitt said we're open to other agreements and that discussion can take place. what do you think of that? >> i think a big part of this decision also makes it very clear to our diplomatic allies that we are not a country that's going to be held -- >> jenna: for us. for us. turning away from the federal government perhaps and looking more toward state based solutions. what about handling the problem that way? >> well, i think that's