which is precisely the countries that we target in this ban for practical purposes in this country as you say we don't want people coming here who are not sympathetic to western culture and western way of life and actually are seeking to destroy it. that is true. but these are precisely the countries that we need the most in the fight against terror. we need their voices. we need their money. and we need their arms. so by alienating them in the way that this was rolled out they are not -- >> eric: we don't need libya. we don't need iran. >> i would argue we don't we don't need them from a security bare bones. >> eric: we need the united arab emirates. we have them. that's where it's got to come from. >> i disagree. i think we need the nations laid out in the travel ban actually in a way more than. >> eric: who are we dealing with in yemen? >> it's not about the government. it's not about -- people made the argument that we banned folks from those countries from traveling here because they don't have a government in place at home. but that's exactly the reason they are trying to