of their peers. >> tucker: i don't want to live in a country -- the former president comes out recently, in think today, and says racial issues have never been better in america and i know that you want to think you left the country a better place than you found it. that's just a flat out lie. y there's no measure by which that's true, and if we're having this conversation now that suggest that it's not true, it's ridiculous. >> the premise here and the premise for the entire discussion we're having is that white america is under attack, and that's what i find to be fundamentally not true. >> tucker: i'm not makingg the case that white america's under attack.am i'm making the case that the society that we're trying to live in is one in which people are judged by what they do, by the choices that they make, not judged by legal characteristics over which they have no control such as their race or their height or their eye color for that matter, and if democratic leaders, liberal leaders are all of a sudden forgetting thatt lesson and pushing this race stuff on the country. >> race is an immutable characteristic, you're absolutely right. what we do have control over is how many people we include in making policy, making real
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