program. the right, what they really want -- if they are being honest -- is a fully free market system because they think that would be the best way to lower the prices. neither side is actually doing that. that is not where americans are necessarily. they are like it, we want a little bit of this and a little bit of that. obamacare was not the most courageous thing they could do. it's almost like -- the republicans know how to fix that problem. it wasn't courageous enough. they still had all of those historic losses. >> the democrats could've gone straight up for what they really wanted. >> by the way, he may end up going that way. when he talked about courage, he was talking about not being afraid to speak truth to power. he has a cozy his relationship with the press. it wasn't a press pool as much