on television and talk about the case before the trial. here's the main reason why it doesn't help and i guarantee you we will see this in the trial. a lot of that interview she gave to cbs will be played during the trial. there are certain things she said in that interview in my opinion that kind of incriminated her. she actually planned for the shooting. it never helps an officer to go on television before a trial, guys. ainsley: why do you think she is going to get a fair trial though. this happened in tulsa. there were a lot of protests there. >> you know what, ainsley. that's another good question. there would be protests no matter where this trial was going to be held. i do think in oklahoma i think she has a better chance. look, we have got an officer here that has way over 12 years experience in that community as a police officer. they are going to give her the benefit of the doubt with that versus having the trial somewhere elsewhere people may not even know her. steve: all right. rod wheeler joining us from our nation's capital. the trial starts today. thank you. brian: we will have you back, rod, to see how it's progressing. thanks so much.