>> luckily enough, we were able to bring up the anchor and we did some measurements and by the curvature of the anchor, we are able to determine that the anchor was hand forged. only the earwere hand forged any we deduced that it came from the earliest colonial period, such as christopher columbus his fleet. >> jon: melissa is pretty impressed. this anchor is also bent, what does that tell you? >> and had a really violent -- based on some of the stories we heard, based on trying to save one of his ships, we believe this anchor may be associated with that story whereby it was found in an area on the columbus