i'll give you an opportunity to do that. >> well, on the border there are some indications that just simply president trump's election has maybe decreased the number of people that are coming in, sort of more sending a signal. he hasn't gotten the wall so far, i think right now he's learning more about which parts of the border -- julie: do you think he's learning that it's actually impossible? >> you know, i think what you can learn is there are some parts of the border that don't need a wall, they've got natural barriers. i personally have thought a border fence makes sense as did hillary clinton and barack obama when they voted for it back in 2006. julie: coloradan mccormack, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. rick: a fox news alert, north korea test firing yet another mid range ballistic missile, but officials say the test appears to have failed. it's the country's third straight unsuccessful missile test this month, and president trump says the rogue nation's latest move disrespects china. kitty logan is live in london