weeks ago saying it is just math. it really isn't. if you want that stimulus effect, it has to be dramatic. 20% doesn't actually put america in the international competitiveness ranking looking that favorable. but 15% really does. that will really give you that wish of confidence. for me, going back to the point of who benefits, 20% or higher, the real winners will be the already rich. if you really want to help working people, you've got to go for the 15% rate. >> bret: you have to figure out how to make it revenue neutral. as you look at the polls, the president's job performance, which is fox poll 1, 45% disapprove, 48%. if we can go to fox poll 8, the president's handling of a list of issues, isis, the economy, he has an approval above disapproval. foreign policy and taxes, health