so let's just write this down and make it end that way. i just don't think we can do that. but look, i mean, i might also suggest that the country take a little more inward look at itself and try to figure out why it is -- look, once upon a time in another life, i had a deal with a blue jean company, you know, and part of what i wanted to do was give the consumer a really clear choice between jeans that were made in americav and jeans that were made overseas. they were identical. these jeans. i mean, i could show you the research if you're into the it, but it was remarkable how the price difference was everything. until those two jeans, the american made and the overseas, the identical same price, it was absolutely no push, no incentive for the consumer to buy american. so it is not just the worker, and it is not just the boss, it is us. >> tucker: that's totally right.