do working with congress? how does this measure up in the white house right now, this possible government shutdown looming? >> well, most people, if the government shuts down, will be unaffected by it and a lot of the times when a government has the shut down, the government works really hard to make things inconvenient because they want the public to feel it i don't think this administration is going to push for these things like closing access to the monuments and you can't even stop and see, i know, great things from the highway because somebody has decided that you just can't. but it's not a good thing. i mean, the best thing is to pull a consensus together, get a budget done. reform healthcare. cut the taxes. but it requires efforts by congress more than it does just the president. he can't act unilaterally. so let's hope that they all decide that they were elected to get a job done up there. connell: because there is a political price to pay for it