about the topic and against all vaccinations? >> i think that is out there but it's very, i have small. i think like i'm -- all the time because the pharmaceutical industry is so powerful. media, they give $5.4 billion a year to the media and and so and they have gotten rid of the lawyers. there is no legal interest in those cases. and they really have been able to control debate and silence people like me. i'm very grateful to you for having the courage to allow me on this show and talk. this is the second show in 10 years that's allowed me to talk about this. the other one being bill maher which doesn't take advertising. >> tucker: i think it's interesting. above all, i think you ought to be allowed to ask legitimate questions without being attacked because i think that's the basis of democracy. >> we are having a responsible debate and, you know, i don't scare people but a debate that's real and