issue, people are arriving on europe's shores, there are thousands of people in italy and greece it's a problem for europe. what's happening now is that the european union, european leaders are so focused on trying to stop people from leaving, their priority is stopping people from leaving libya, the problem is libya is not a normal country, it's not a stable country with functioning institutions. people personally have told me, i was beaten up on the phone. >> tucker: you don't need to convince me, i'm sold. what's happened in libya is a man-made disaster and it's terrible, you're not answering my core question and that's the core question, why is europe responsible? why shouldn't these people be sent to bolivia or kenya or china? i don't understand why europe or the united states is uniquely responsible for their faith, what's the answer? >> europe is responsible when people are arriving in the water off the coast of europe. these are international treaties, european countries and