she's had since 2007. elizabeth: that's a pretty heavy statement that he talked about inclusion and i think what we heard from the administration is there needs to be inclusion of democrats as well. >> if they can't make it happen within their own caucus will never happen with democrats. we have a lot of people -- a lot of republicans that came out in 2010, 2011. the only thing they've done to stop government from working. the only thing they've ever done is against president obama. they don't have any experience whatsoever in actually getting legislation done. what we've seen so far are people who are practicing the exact same political maneuvering to crack this when president obama was then. i might add, john bandar agrees with me because he said they'd never get in. elizabeth: respectfully he doesn't have a job. >> we will get it done. unfortunately that's all the time we have. there's a lot more to talk