don't you believe that? don't you think donald trump is going to back away from a punk like assad if he uses gas again? >> i didn't say anything about the president of united states backing up. you asked me if it's going to stopas it -- >> bill: why would he risk his own neck?. >> okay. we are dealing with a crazy man in the middle of a war with a thousand different factions, and he still has, i believe, he destroyed 1300 tons of that a stuff back in 2012-2013 and he still got it. i think you could use it againk in a few months. in small doses. i wouldn't be surprised at all if he uses it again. >> bill: mr. harmer, would you be surprised if this guy does it again knowing that the next time, going going to be ten times worse? >> i would be surprised if bashar al-assad uses chemical weapons again for two reasons. number one, he cannot afford direct conflict with the united states. he can survive with al qaeda and isis.