democrats, there was no way to negotiate over obamacare. that was the opposite of what democrats wanted to do. kicking 24 million people off the rolls, raising rates for the middle class, cutting taxes for the rich, that is exactly the opposite of what anybody wanted on the democratic side. >> martha: let's talk syria because the president did seem genuinely moved into a different place on this today. do you believe he is and if he is, once he put that line down, we seen what happens if you don't take action. >> one thing that both parties agree in washington is that the way things panned out in syria, red line and all of that stuff, this has been a thoroughgoing disaster. trump is facing similar -- he cannot go back in time. he cannot undo the mistakes of the past. you have to live in the world as it is. here's a serious challenge. we thought we were getting a share of what trump is him was on the international stage and that was america first, not isolationist but certainly a withdrawal from the traditional