that come out because of scandal it's not news that a lot of marriages end in divorce and infidelity is a big motivator for that. he. it is kind of weird for a politician to hold his marriage up in such high regard. but the idea that this is something to mock is not healthy given a how much damage is done by marital infidelity. we should have a conversation about healthy marriages. howie: mollie, when you are back in dc, do you want to have dinner? no drinking. mike pence said he was sorry his wife karen couldn't be there but she had dinner plans.