flynn, neil and the others say that we'll testify, roger stone, paul manafort, these were not folks that ever served in this administration. they also don't have 30-plus years of government service that they can be questioned about. he's in a unique situation. he had a short time in the private sector. i think they're out for him as the attorneys said. if you have a counsel, it would be an absurdity not to seek immunity. i go back to hillary clinton's team when they were facing the investigation by the fbi. her chief of staff got immunity, her lawyer got immunity, who was a former white house liaison for her and her tech officer. the one in charge of the server. he got immunity as well. the fbi has been willing to give this immunity out. if we want the truth and it's not about prosecuting people or catch people in misstatements or