>> harris: we are also hearing from speaker ryan's office that there were two conversations this weekend. one yesterday, one today. one of them over one hour is what we're told. interesting development there. i want to talk about this reach out to democrats. why did not happen sooner if they thought they needed democrats to vote. i remember now going president obama telling his fellow democrats, don't you rescue the republicans when it comes to healthcare. that had to play a role. >> your memories to go. that's why you make the big bucks. you're right about that. the former president made it very clear, don't bail them out, let them figure it out. when you think about working with the democrats, that is the 64000-dollar question. in particular when you consider