then, according to those in the room, he asked house caucus chair mark meadows to stand. reportedly, with a wink and a smile, said something like, mark, i am going to come after you. i hope congress and meadows will be with us in the end. fox news can report that the vice president, mike pence, made a special visit to privately speak with meadows today. we have not seen this kind of process since obamacare was passed along party lines. the congressman said despite being singled out today by number one and number two, he is still a "no." so, how is it going to go? >> there is 30 or so votes that are no among conservatives, then come about ten to 20 other moderates. >> i don't know what the web counters for the freedom caucus. i note the discussions i am having a very positive, president trump's visit today with house republicans was very persuasive. >> martha: what is the truth? effort fails, it may be hard to