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mandated coverage in there that drive up the costs, those have to be dealt with if we are ultimately going to bring down the costs for working-class families and if we put that many the bill, may have parliamentary ruling on it but i think we can win that as well and use that strategy to actually repeal and replace it with something that's going to be helpful. >> congressman, here is the problem, if you blow up senate rules and you basically say you can pass almost anything under reconciliation, then you're ending a filibuster, a majority can do anything they want. back in 2009 there was a simple majority but not a filibuster majority of democrats who wanted universal health care and they continue do it because under -- they couldn't get the 60 votes to do that so that's one problem with it. i mean, if you blow up rules, yes it'll work for you now but when the democrats come back in and they will eventually, they can do anything they want with

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