now, having said that, i disagree with him. when it comes to -- let's take football off of the field, so to speak. it is a violent game, and i don't think football players would respect anybody who hasn't either played the game or coached at a very high level. let's take that off. but basketball and baseball? there are only two kinds of coaches in those areas. those who have been fired and those who will be fired. they just recycle the same guys over and over again. >> bill: i don't disagree. i don't disagree that a woman could coach a men's basketball team. 12 players, that could happen. but he was talking about baseball and football, and i agree with francesa, almost impossible in a number of levels for that to happen. even if you disagree, you know sports, you work for hbo sports, and i know sports, he shouldn't be punished.