been praised from the right to the left. a way to give states control over how it's administered. a state may choose that folks would have their choice of a narrow network or broader. that's the state choice. it's easier for a patient to complain to their state legislator than it is to the director of cms. >> shepard: i was going to say, you'd admit that state rules are less stringent and regulatory standards would go down, right? >> we don't know that. new york had stricter regulatory controls than did washington. louisiana has less strict. our point is, the states should make that choice. why is the federal government telling states what to do unless it said under the constitution they should be. that was the problem with obamacare. we get away from that. >> shepard: you would eliminate the employer mandate and the individual mandate, correct? >> correct. >> shepard: so with no mandate, how do you spread the costs around? >> what we suggest is states have the option to auto enroll