a penalty," eliminating choice, we are enacting, i think i'm a very strong conservative values and healthcare that give all americans more choice at a lower cost. i think that should be a very positive message. >> reporter: as a brand-new federal employee, i am sure you are aware -- >> press secretary spicer: current, welcomed back. >> reporter: i'm sure that you and your family are aware that they offer a very compounds of healthcare program called the federal employees benefit program for you and anyone on this staff, building, on the hill, their families -- very generous. state of the art. the individuals involved in the healthcare situation right now, the debate, no matter how it plays out, do they really have the kind of sympathy and empathy for individuals who may not benefit nearly as much when they are negotiating these systems, all of these plans? >> press secretary spicer: in what respect?