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to been a judge or the pfizer court approving the wiretap order, correct? >> by law that is exactly what happens. at the request goes to fisa courts. that is sold top secret. nobody knows where it is in washington, d.c. but they would put the request in, and they would have to be substantial evidence to get to that point that a judge would then say, yes, go ahead and do it. we should point out by the time that you get the request for the foreign intelligence surveillance act court, most times i think it is only .1% or something that get turned down, so you would wonder whether or not they went forward. we do not know the specifics of whether it happened or did not. and we are trying to get to the bottom of it. you know that you have various people saying that some investigation happens, and clearly over the past couple of months there have been many stories that have cited anonymous officials about the

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