expect us to account for who they are and that's the reason why you set up some form that has the vetting which the president has called extreme vetting. what's wrong with that when you consider the nature of the government in these countries in the first place? >> well, we put in place in our administration and the last administration is very extreme vetting. we -- these refugees go two to three years of buy -- biometrics of background checking and vetting you could want. we believe the system's in place and backed up by statistics nobody from these countries has killed an american in the u.s. in a terrorist attack since 9/11 -- >> bill: but did the obama administration have the same countries on the same list? >> no, that's not true. these countries were part of a list we required citizens to get visas to come to the u.s. but could still travel to the u.s. what we would say is look,