a true honor. >> sean: how long did it take to get to the point where you are now, where you are know howw helping other vets? >> probably back in 2009 after iraq. it has been an adventure ever since. it will continue for the rest of my life. by helping other vets, it was a healing process often times. this is what we will find in this book. the healing process has accelerated when somebody helps somebody else. helping people find work. >> sean: you are helping them vets find a work >> yes, bush'scenter.org. >> sean: you said that there is a divide, the public sector, he said well maybe sniper on