a lot of people get all fussy about where our iphones are made. they are made in china but the fact is, the real value of an iphone is not the cost of actually putting it together. it's the chips, the design,f technology, branding. that is typically not chinese. now, what they want to do, and say we want to make whatever the next big breakthrough project i is. we wanted to be chinese technology, chips, brand. we want to sell it to americans and everyone around the world. they want to run companies like apple out of business. >> tucker: and that is came over to the united states if that happens. there is the belief that the chinese has stolen key american trade secrets. is that true? >> there has been a lot of concern about chinese cyber -- not military secrets butut commercial technology. it's a big problem for american