tax reform, find them a trillion dollars or whatever it is. the senators immediately dismiss it. there is no consensus on these very tough issues. it requires presidential leadership. i have spoken to them over and over, what groundwork cannulae. no, we have to hear it from him. it has to be white house leadership. and they think that his time wasting, consuming dramas, going to take them into august, the midterm cycle, won't have come the big things done. >> chris: is that possible, lisa? after seven or eight years of campaigning against obamacare, years of talking about tax reform, they conceivably might not get this done this year? >> that will be very problematic. not a lack of ideas but there is a lack of consensus. you are right. look at the way tax reform is playing out, pushing for this border adjustment tax.