this is a chronic issue, and you want to use the energy and the support and the honeymoon of a new presidency. controlling the two houses of congress. to go ahead and attack it. and i'm afraid a lot of that energy is being squandered on peripheral issue. >> what d f. you don't get a honeymoon, if you go straight to the seven-year itch? >> i think the president did not have a honeymoon. he got involved in policy soon after beak elected. his money moon should be under way now. but i think it -- honeymoon. bpt it ended in the transition. he's in, now, i mean look, you realize he's been here for four weeks. tell me if it feels like four weeks. it feels like a lot more than that. >> it does. >> it's hard to remember barack obama. >> it does. and i think the honeymoon was over november 10, 11, maybe. if he made that it far. >> yes. >> charles, always good to see